Drug usage and will power

Hello, Ive got questions:)

Im 21 and I live in a loop where Id be sober and recap 1-3 hours daily for a few weeks, and Id feel effects as sharpened senses and *lucky cool* things happening to me, just to fall into drugusage (Anything really, psychodelics only occasinally) for some weeks again. In those phases streams of thoughts flood my brain and I get pulled back into the Matrix so to say. In these phases I dont do any practise at all. And that cycle continues.
My thought is that if I am using drugs, its not possible to do magic and to work on myself and practise as Im not very concious. It feels like going the opposite direction of sorcery.
My first quesition is, how does occasinal and regualar drug use effect you from an energy perspective. Does it mean that youre done for?
I have read on here: excessive use of psychedelics can also permanently mess up your ability to move your assemblage point naturally.
What is it like for alkohol, and non psychodelic “feel-good-drugs”?

I have also read on here somwhere that the abondment from stuff like junk food, drugs, etc. using will power is doesnt work well. I hope I remember that correctly.
When I go back to using drugs I suddenly feel feel like a robot which is just following a program with no will really.
Id like to ask if you should and how you should change things and behavioral patterns that definetly dont make your life immaculate. Does it just depend on the amount of energy you gathered, that you start to act immaculately?
Also is that also the case for not letting the sexual drive take over?
To be fair though I havent started recapitulation drug expiriences.

Does anyone have exprerience with drug addiction?

I appreciate any help


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Drugs wont help you. Some more experienced guys on the forum will help you out with that question im just a lazy practitioner but psilocybin or whatever you are using will just gove u a glympse of what could be achieved. This forum is all about not using drugs. If you are really “stubborn” or hard headed sure you could try like halluciogenic mushrooms just to give yourself a glimpse of what is possible but then stop using it.

Alcohol, weed and everything just “feeds” your ego ( a part of your tonal ) and u actually give away, or lose energy while using them. You can still use them but they wont help your progress…

Sex drive is actually energy thats why you should hold it back for a while and not give in into that urge, or especially watch porn too much.
You can still masturbate, you dont have to go full monk :D. But its better if you stop or maybe do it just once per week without porn just do the act alone without images in your head just feel the feeling of masturbation :D.

I hope i answered some questions… but you will probably get better answers from others here :slight_smile:

Don’t change anything about your life, other than that you never fail to practice, and when practicing you emphasize stopping the internal dialogue relentlessly.

Later you can figure out what intoxicants do to your results.

Before someone pointed me to reddit, I got emails from people and tried to help them.

20 years in some cases.

Didn’t work at all. And some of them would have endless excuses for why they don’t actually do work to learn, such as “Next week when my new vitamins arrive, I’ll get to work for real.”

But they never did.

The problem isn’t the drugs. It’s not actually intending to learn for real.

But if you DO decide to really learn, it’ll be interesting information for this subreddit, if you make progress and can tell us authoratatively what each drug did to your progress.

It won’t be positive, but it might not be as negative as one would imagine.

Here’s Grok’s rendition of La Gorda catching don Juan smoking a large blunt.

La Goda was fat and obese, and even after losing weight, she probably wouldn’t have looked as good as she did in the picture

And I suppose don Juan wasn’t that thin too.

Your response is solid except for the sexual energy part. Masturbation is prohibited as well. It doesn’t serve any purpose. I know from experience that it drastically influences dream capabilities - of course, in a negative way.

I think you’re mistaking la Gorda with dona Soledad. La Gorda had a " lean, dark body and a superb back".

Thanks for the words
Looking forward to smoke a fat blunt with an IOB soon

La masturbation est mouvement physique.
L’objectif : répandre de l’énergie.
Le fait est qu’on peut se la garder pour soi cette énergie. Il n’est nullement nécessaire de se contraindre pour la masturbation. CEPENDANT, il vous sera impératif de suivre les enseignement taoïste sur la rétention séminale. Ça a un putain de pouvoir, c’est l’opposé absolue de ce qui se passe une fois avoir ejaculer.
MESSIEURS : à vos Penis, récupéré moi cette énergie et faite la rester près de vous, ou en haut.

Je suppose que les actes qui te font perdre de l’énergie, ont en eux le pouvoir de t’en donner aussi. Au vu de mon expérience, je dirai que certains acte permette de forcer un état. Mais si cet état n’est pas maîtrisé, l’énergie est utilisé au lieu d’être préservé ou accumulé.

So not using drugs would require discipline. You need discipline to progress. Being drug free isn’t an accomplishment for people who don’t have that addictive trait, so your progress in that sense can’t be measured- except for the discipline involved. That will get noticed, but don’t expect rewards unless you see even harder work as the prize, which will require increasing amounts of discipline.
Usually the motive for that discipline comes too late. Saving ( sexual) energy will help you, and smoking a blunt requires a lot of it. The mixture of alcohol and weed and whatnot can be deadly. It’s up to you, you’re on your own with it. Nobody really cares and even if they do they probably couldn’t help you anyway, because us humans “love being told what to do and end up hating the ones which tell us what to do”.

Yesss thx
Ive starter using drugs for spirituality 2 years ago, it was only psychedelics at that point. Funnily the same time when I got hands on the first castanda book. But the minimum amount of effort I put into recap already made me figure out that psychodelics are not of much value other than fun​:laughing:

And I’ve actually started doing that, not using porn for the ((:confounded_face::squinting_face_with_tongue::laughing::anxious_face_with_sweat::skull:))
Feels less bad :joy:
Although I’ve felt that if not mastrubating for just a few days even, more stuff happens in darkroom.

Drugs are tools. A hammer will never build a house if you just play and see how high you can throw it instead of getting to work.

It’s a poor craftsman that blames their tools. If you find yourself reliant on something to the point that nothing works without it you have given that thing control and power over you.

Be intentional regarding what you choose to submit to if you want any input on where you are going.

then she must have changed her body quite a bit. from the all-in-one pdf:

“What about the other two girls? Where do they fit?”

"A year later Elena came; she is la Gorda. She was by far in the worst condition you could imagine. She weighed two hundred and twenty pounds. She was a desperate woman. Pablito had given her shelter in his shop. She did laundry and ironing to support herself. The Nagual came one night to get Pablito and found the fat girl working while a circle of moths flew over her head. He said that the moths had made a perfect circle for him to watch. He saw that the woman was near the end of her life, yet the moths must have had all the confidence in the world, in order for them to give him such an omen. The Nagual acted fast and took her with him.

Watch out, I believe the IOBs are still smoking the 1970s marijuana which was dosed with angel dust by the Cartels…

But seriously, marijuana pulls you down to the green zone (the lowest level of magic that even meditation “masters” can access).

But it also pulls you back up to it, if you escape to the red zone.

So overall it’s not helpful.

Plus it makes you lazy, so that the more you smoke, the less you are likely to practice.

Even magic mushrooms are pitiful compared to sorcery. Those pull you towards the deep red zone, and far off to the side.

But sorcery lets you do stuff like this! For real, wide awake, sober, and relatively in possession of your normal rationality.

I’ve been using this technique from a 1980s lecture, for the last few days. it’s one of the Esalen not-doings (given out by Taisha was it?).

How, how to walk off into it??? I’ve only ever succeeded at doing that, with help from an inorganic being. Or a witch.

Never by myself. I only get to look, so far.

She must have! She was " taller than the other girls" and weighed 115 pounds, she was like dona Soledad in that they had both made a huge transformation.
But Soledad was " something else".

One of our own believes Soledad was a fairly well known Mexican actress.

I can’t recall the name.

And when you look into it, it seems to be a fact that this actress knew don Juan, at least to some extent.

Which wouldn’t be quite as crazy as it sounds, because don Juan was a Yaqui from Vicam, not from Arizona, and Vicam has its share of famous sorcerers. If that actress knew Jacobo (which she did), running into don Juan wouldn’t have been odd.

Jacobo was Carlos’ next choice to take over for him. He invited him to come visit private classes, but only his wife showed up.

Jacobo simply vanished.

In the end Carlos couldn’t find anyone to take over for him.

So here we are…

Soledad on the other hand, is rumoured to have lived around Santa Monica.

The apprentices moved “Norte”.

I remember in an interview with carlos where he said don juan didnt know what marijuana was when he asked him about it

Yea, but he knew enough to add 2 more ingredients to the mushroom smoking mixture.

One to get you high instantly (likely a variety of salvia), and one to hold that high longer, until the mushrooms kick in.

And marijuana is used by shamans in Mexico.

So it’s unlikely don Juan didn’t know what it was.

Carlos was just trying to discourage people from pretending to be learning sorcery, through drugs.