What is the difference between Closed Eyes vs Open Eyes Silence?

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I got so excited about this Ganzfeld effect so I tried it for 30 mins just awhile ago!

The ghetto mask, a a4 paper sheet on my face and a white grow light above. lying on a carpet on the floor. Got some interesting results! After awhile the sheet turned to a smooth surface and it felt in a way the same as dark room practice. I was seeing for brief moments weird shapes, like viewing them from far away. At one point it felt like I was lying on a beach and I saw the treetops above me. After I got up I saw my carpet in real good fascinating detail, that was cool!

Good warmup for my dark room practice in couple hours :slight_smile: Probably not a good idea to do it in the evening, blasting eyes with bright light

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Those look comfy… yet remember anything you focus upon even in the black becomes the first attention.

By saying flood your eyes what I am getting at is cram so much into your line of vision that focus upon the structure becomes impossible and only the abstract remains.

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Yes! It’s fits better with pure daytime hours. Function and design are important. Using a piece of paper everyday is a drag!

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So a gazing practice, at complex shiftable patterns then. Like a pile of leaves. :maple_leaf:

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Gazing Is probably the best term.

I just thought it would be a cool addition to darkroom practices to include objects to touch (textures like a pile of leafs) without knowing what they were prior…

Unless of course the act of touch somehow grounds or focuses attention.

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Maybe it’s like sky gazing?

Taisha taught to look for “worms”, but it was likely eye junk.

Carlos taught that you first see a purple smear across the sky, just above the horizon.

Can you find a picture of that this practice looks like?

We also have Taisha’s visualized martial arts, which brings out the double being.

Maybe we could have multiple “paths” in here? As long as it turns out multiple people can make that particular path work.

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Yeah it probably is, I didn’t mention that I saw instantly those eye worms and also after a few mins those tiny tiny bright spots like when gazing at the sky.
Looks like this basically: https://imgur.com/a/ynLOWq6

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Can I ask, so like for instance, last night (with closed eyes), I had a white perfect circle start forming from the bottom up within a few minutes of getting ready for sleep. Then I had a star trek “warp speed” effect appear followed by red fireworks. It was perfectly animated and didn’t seem to skip frames. I had never seen anything like this before, but is it still part of the green zone or more just an intent gift right now since it just sort of happened? The entire thing was about 30 seconds of time.

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It’s green zone for sure.

We never tried to map things, but every part of the J curve maps into sleeping dreaming.

Except that the dreamer is so irrational, it would be hard to tell what is what.

The implications of that are far greater than you can imagine.

You can have “Silent Knowledge Dreams”.

But not until you’ve moved your assemblage point that far over and over again, fully awake.

Our dreamer moves very close to the edge of the band of man, thus it’s in various levels of “slumber”.

Chances of it making it all the way to SK when the tonal version cannot, must be very low.

It’s “dragging in the mud” the whole way.

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Thank you!

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u/danl999 Hey Dan, I am about to practice darkroom tonight and I was just wondering, since I live with my parents, what would happens with my physical body If a portal opens and I jump into it and I start wandering in the unknown? Does my physical body stay still, I wont fall on the ground and hit my head or something right haha? My main concern is lets say my mother walks into the room and im out in my double and he just sees my physical body looking like a zombie swirling his arms around and making strange noises :smiley: I guess it is just some fears that I havent overcome yet of being strange, I have to get over it. Thankful for all of the info in this sub, it is amazing, peace!

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No one knows, but you won’t fall to the ground and hit your head.

Just don’t be an idiot and walk through a wall unless your double takes over and does it for you.

I could try to make “five rules to tell when you can safely break the laws of physics”.

And I could actually do a good job on that!

But then you’d have 5 rules in your internal dialogue, when you ought to be gazing down a portal to an alien world.

As for your mom seeing your double, all I can think of is Cholita’s statement that “Women are witches, if they just KNOW it.”

So yes, your mom might see your double.

But that could be true even if you never practiced sorcery.

People’s doubles come around them from time to time, it’s not something that only sorcerers do.

Carlos even tried to figure out how to lure a group of women’s doubles to come, when he got desperate at the end and had failed to teach anyone.

But even if he succeeded, just because a sorcerer can see and interact with someone’s double, doesn’t mean that knowledge carries over into their waking self.

In the case of your mother, more likely is that she’d ignore the sign almost instantly.

If you talk like that too much however, she WON’T ignore it.

She’ll be worried you’ve gone crazy.