Two sides of man

If what other online groups or in-person schools that claim to be teaching modern “nagualism” were actually churning out students that could shift their assemblage point, we wouldn’t have to be so authoritative in here.

We could be looser and more relaxed.

But that’s not the state of things, in the broader community. And we know that, clearly, based on their results. And we mean direct experience with non-ordinary reality as a result, not feel-good placebos that any religion pro-offers.

I assume they’d have a different opinion.

Now you’re just making up stuff.

But why?

I have to be careful saying things like that.

Might be talking to a woman, who is simply “testing the waters”.

I got a series of “lectures” on why women are so hard to keep around, around 1AM last night.

What they seem to want, is not what they’re actually after.

That’s the main problem.

I dont know what is your personal experience but to state that internal dialog is “the big and only enemy” is a bit childish and dualistic as you like to say. ID can be also very helpful in many situations, if man can tame it and control it. It is like tool, nothing else. If man does not live in cave and is exposed to unknown and life circumstances, he can use ID to his benefit (good self talk can give u extra boost in life threatening situations etc.). So like I said just a tool. Good servant, bad master. Nevertheless I must admit taming ID made my life better in every aspect of it. I dont see purple puffs or phantom worlds but many weird unexplainable things happen in my life, one might call miracles.

You don’t absolutely have to see puffs. And likely won’t if you’re not doing dark room which has it’s own intent.

But if you’re seeing anything at all that “shouldn’t be there,” on a regular and repeatable basis, then you’ve learned to shift your assemblage point…and that is success.

As opposed to using the books of Carlos as soothing words to placate whatever angst or sorrow we have. Like a bible. Way too many people do this.

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What a shame. But it’s never too late.

Inner silence, setting up darkroom, finding puffs is a good start

That depends. If you stalk yourself and notice you have certain distinct habits, and then actively do something to change them, that’s stalking. Just analyzing and making realizations ab urself is not going to do anything to fixate your ap or make it more flexible. For example, if you decided instead of being a depressed college student ull be a coop stoic plumber that would be an example of stalking as its a complete shift in behavior that forces u out of old habits and opens up new forms of perception

Read my reply… I think ur misunderstanding the full extent of what stalking is

Of course I am doing something about it. If man feels something is wrong, something feels weird (loosing energy), he wants to do something about it. I just wanted to talk it out with some people with knowledge. The thing is u cannot know me from this short text even if u think so and I cannot describe every aspect of my life. I just got feeling that I immediately get judged for briefly explaining my experience. You cannot know it was controlled folly that I wanted to know your oppinion.

Uuuuuuuu that’s great stuff, tensegrity too?

I don’t think you understand where my comment resides here. We want to hear your weird and unusual experiences and how you achieved them, even if they are outside of what the subreddit has taught. We’ve got someone right now doing mirror gazing to see if there is anything to gain from that for newbies atm in the student chat. Your post didn’t describe anything of this example, making it not really seem relevant. That’s why uve been getting what you see as “judgement.” You didn’t give any sorcery contexts to your post, so it isn’t going to make sense to talk about it in a sorcery specific subreddit.

You mentioned in another comment you have experienced miracles (ngk i dont rlly like the term “miracle” as it has the wrong intent, but i understand using that term), and here that you are doing other activities to help shift your AP, talk about those! We want to hear those experiences and how you got to them!

Ofc!

Ok. Understood. Those are everyday small things. Nothing fancy like levitating things etc.. Once I experience and recognize its worth sharing, I will post. I just had feeling that everything which is connected with experiencing reality and digging deep into it (which is not just theory from books) is worth sharing.

What is the intent of the old seers?

It’s the force of their awareness flowing into the emanations in the dark sea, now glowing with latent energy you can detect and find.

I suppose, you could say it’s like being in a dark ocean not knowing which way to go, but you shine a light into the dark water and you see trash and plastic bottles clearly floating from a specific direction.

A line of them on the water, leading the way to their source.

So you row your little boat that way, and as you go along you see more and more of it.

If you go any other direction, you see next to nothing.

Certainly no trail you can follow.

But this isn’t just an analogy!

It actually happens.

You learn sorcery, move your assemblage point to Silent Knowledge, and then you get to gaze into the darkness looking for “sparkles”.

If you find one, you further perfect your silence and remove all desires to try to make it become thing, and it “blooms” into what it is.

As long as you don’t interfere, it can become what it really is.

My favorite recent experience was that a group of at least 5, and maybe 20 of the “old seers” became visible.

I got the impression they were “trapped” somewhere, by their own doing.

They found a way to survive death, but it was less than ideal.

So they “noticed” me, and I noticed them, and then there they were, like a video in the air.

I gazed at them a while trying to see where they were.

And suddenly I was gliding along above the ground around 30 feet, in an ancient olmec city.

I recognized the architecture!

Except, it was all new!

All of the buildings and paths were decorated with amazing flowers and plants, like it was a modern shopping mall and the store owners tried everything they could, to get more people to come visit.

I’d been pulled back in time around 3000 years.

Not asleep.

Not with my eyes closed.

Fully awake.

It was from “The intent of the sorcerers of ancient Mexico”.

I suppose you sometimes see this in science fiction movies.

Someone is trying to figure out what an evil magic man is up to.

So they use some device to spy on him, from a distance.

But the evil magician “notices” them, and his head turns suddenly.

So they know they’re caught red handed.

I do that with Cholita, the witch Carlos gave me to take care of.

She caught me remote viewing her once, and put a stop to it.

I made the mistake of asking her while we were having dinner in a restaurant, if she was aware of me doing that.

Are the emanations the infinitely long bundles of glowing fibres that one can see - rising from below and stretching above to form the shadow of the eagle?

The unconscious shifting of your assemblage point is what you experience as the replay of memories, and right now there is a lot on your playlist. If you practice stillness and find it, you will experience that what you think are observations right now are just ideas about your self, your identity, many of which are framed in self-judgement. Neutrality is the state outside duality. What you are describing sounds more like a cold/hot state of rational/emotional extremes, otherwise known as mood swings.

So practice. Do the work. This is a path, and people here are following it for a reason. That is all anyone is saying.