Or to put it another way, Carlos made Cleargreen. It’s the only teaching unit authorized by Carlos, and so the only one connected directly to his intent.
You said earlier, that before his death, Carlos said that he didn’t care about Cleargreen and he let all the “factions” go free. This is true? That is, in fact - he did not leave his legacy in the hands of Cleargreen, but left them to formally support the popularization of Tensegrity. It is correct? This is important for our research. Thanks!
I applied for the job, but I was too tall. You have to fit into a specific black briefcase.
You mean,
“Whenever we have a thought, our energy moves in the direction of that thought. Thoughts are like scouts, they cause the body to move along a certain path.”
Me too, but it won’t help anyone move the assemblage point.
And until it moves, no one will understand exactly what that statement implies.
In that form, with no explanation, and from my knowledge of the last 25 years and what went wrong, it makes people pretend to be superior and to keep their wonderful energy to themselves. When they want to soothe themselves, they’ll think happy thoughts, believing they are controlling their energy.
That might be useful to the women, who have no trouble moving the assemblage point, but need soothing at times.
But it’s not clear enough how to use it. They’ve removed all the rest of that lecture.
We know what that statement also means is, the assemblage point won’t move from here, if you are thinking about here.
The value in the statement isn’t to encourage people to move elsewhere, but to point out that you can’t leave here, if you are thinking about here.
Double women can easily manipulate others, and tend to go out on a limb chasing men.
Not always. I ran into an Asian one, who had obviously been hazed to keep her energy hidden.
But in the USA, if you want to spot a double woman visually, without the ability to sense her energy, go to a bar and find a woman who has an entire herd of other women following her around.
Double people have more energy, and it’s noticeable.
I suppose they follow her for the “boy fallout”, when she gets random men to come over and flirt.
They can also crash. A secondary sign of a double woman is when she crashes from too much partying, and her little herd of friends surrounds her, to revive her.
She’s formed a little lineage of her own!
On the other hand, you can also have the case of someone with a very large assemblage point.
Carlos never mentioned how that happens!
Those can become manipulative. Maybe the larger assemblage point lets them notice what others are thinking, so they can use it to their advantage.
They seem to have more energy, because they have a large following. But really they are tired inside, just talk to them. Pain is probably obvious.
The following of a real double woman is joyful, fun. Until she crashes.
The following of the woman with the big assemblage point is social, group oriented, cultlike.
Not joyful. Dutiful. Like working for a politician who can give you a boost up.
Unfortunately, neither of those explains Carol Tiggs.
Maybe add bi-sexual tenancies, and the social signs elude my skills.
So that’s just my incomplete observations.
Unless Carol was a little wild when she was younger, and no one told me.
What’s the point of speculating?
The meditation police are not a good thing.
Cleargreen keeps their followers in terror of the meditation police, which is how they get away with giving nearly nothing to their followers, for so long.
On the other hand, there are characters running around like the two I had to call out today.
Some slight meditation police will always be needed, to keep the attention seekers at bay.
Outside that, I think speculation is a good thing, as long as everyone admits it’s such, at the time they propose it.
And as long as people who know better politely point out the flaw in the thinking, freely.
I think Taisha is most helpful too. By far!
Tashi’s book is beautiful and powerful!
" Mom has miscarriage, then gives birth fairly soon after. "
Miscarriages are extremely common. Most people don’t realize how common.
Which I suppose means there’s plenty of double beings out there.
If we can smoke a few out in here and teach them to do waking dreaming, we could make use of them.
The possibilities for this subreddit are endless.
Imagine! No one making money off it, and so giving bad teaching advice designed only to channel money into their own pockets.
And 10 actual sorcerers. At this point, I suspect we can even produce 16!
If we had naguals among them, we could make use of that, the same way it now seems clear you can also share inorganic beings.
Inorganic beings can link 2 people, the way Kylo Ren and Ray were linked in star wars.
Fairy taught me to do that with Cholita, until Cholita figured it out and broke the connection.
So if we had Naguals, they could make “housecalls” without leaving their home.
“Which I suppose means there’s plenty of double beings out there.”
I was thinking the commonness of miscarriages implies they don’t create double-beings.
Carlos’s books say “double women are quite rare”. Also, since “awareness develops from the moment of conception”, I’d guess a nagual is created at conception.
Good luck finding any who want to participate.
Are you sure he said double women are quite rare?
I remember reading the opposite.
And also, there’s a place where it implies a death in the womb is the reason. Or else Carlos said so in class.
But I suspect it’s in there.
Double women who want to participate are common.
They typically have such disastrous lives, they’re in need of some order.
I call them, “Stray women”.
Carlos had collected a bunch of those, because it’s easy.
What’s hard is motivating them to practice.
I think you have to use visible magic to get them interested.
Show them. Not tell them.
I use pictures now.
My last post included quotes from where don Juan was trying to rope in Tiggs. The full quote has Carlos talking about what don Juan said.
“His mentor had told him, and he himself had verified it in his search, that double women are quite rare. His mentor had also warned him that they have inner resources that make them highly volatile. Don Juan was afraid that if he did not play his cards expertly she would leave.”
Another passage speaks of how long don Juan looked for a double woman.
"Their quest for a new pair of double beings was fruitless. In all their searching, they never came across a double woman. They found several double men, but those double men were all well-situated, busy, prolific, and so satisfied with their lives that it would have been useless to approach them. "
there’s a place where it implies a death in the womb is the reason.
Well, identical twins are far less common than miscarriages (about 1 out of every 400 pregnancies). If one of a set of identical twins died in the womb and that gave rise to a double-being, it might explain why they’re rare.
I’m now also wondering what related event in utero might make female double beings even rarer? (If they are.)
Twins stemming from the same fertilized egg are called “monozygotic twins”. It’s extremely rare. And I found that “inaccurate copying of the sex chromosomes in male twins that began as monozygotic twins have resulted in a few cases of male/female twin pairs”.
If the male twin of such a pair died in the womb and the female got the energy, that might make female double beings extremely rare. Only speculation.
I don’t believe they are rarer. I’d like to see that quote.
I believe it goes like this. Part of this from observation and not just theory.
But not enough to establish it as something to place a bet on.
At conception, the energy of awareness goes into the mother, and hangs out in the womb.
There’s no body yet to contain it.
And like sorcerers can save their awareness after death, and survive with the Earth’s cocoon protecting them, the baby’s energy of awareness can also.
As the baby’s body develops, the awareness goes into there.
If there’s a dead baby from before, it’s awareness might take refuge inside the woman, the same as you can inside the earth.
When the body of the next infant starts to develop, it goes into that.
But so does the energy from the sex that created the new child.
Thus, twins would not produce it.
The energy has to be trapped in the mother, WHILE the next baby forms.
Only speculation.
You’re speculation is as good as mine, being the only other direct student of Carlos in here.
As far as I know.
Can you get anyone else to come write here?
How about Pat?
She’s a goldmine of gossip.
She believes there were wrong doings going on, along with Linda.
But who cares? Let them air their grievances next Festivus!
For now, we want juicy gossip.
Also, I believe Carlos tinkered with us.
I got the power to interact with the allies, and waking dreaming.
But I’m sure others got special gifts from Carlos.
Not that he planned it.
But when he saw something going a certain way, he could give it a little “push”.
I can already do that.
So he must have been able to do that.
I don’t believe they are rarer. I’d like to see that quote.
What do you mean? I just gave you quotes on it, from Eagle’s Gift.
If you won’t read the books, how else can you see the quote?
Can you get anyone else to come write here?
I seriously doubt it.
The searchable pdf is sort of damaged. I didn’t find it searching for “double women”.
I tried it again, knowing it’s Eagle’s Gift.
So I only had to search for “double”.
Here it is:
“His mentor had told him, and he himself had verified it in his search, that double women are quite rare.”
I’ve seen 2 men and 2 women. Didn’t seem all that rare to me.
But I do a lot of international travel. Just go to an international airport and watch people go by. Sit next to the human conveyor belt, and see their energy go by.
Maybe the airport concentrates them because they have extra energy, and end up being flown around to make use of it?
As for how do I can see the quotes from the books, I’ve been stretching what Carlos told us.
I obey Carlos.
The rewards are huge. You can’t imagine, until Little Smoke makes a guest appearance and teaches you something fantastic.
But if someone asks me a question and the only way to answer it is from the books, I’ll search for a specific topic.
If you were there that day in class you’ll remember Carlos telling us to stop reading “the books of Carlos Castaneda”.
He was being hassled by “book experts” would even contradict him in private class by quoting his books.
And it’s clear why in this subreddit, that it’s bad to read them over and over again.
It keeps you from actually trying it out yourself. I suppose, too much to think about?
The entire Castaneda community failed to learn. Unless there’s some selfish sorcerers out there, hiding.
Most quit in anger when he died. You can’t get those to consider it again, no matter what you say.
It’s that old thing about once you give up, you return to the ranks of the petty tyrants forever.
Turns out to be true.
Some from private classes or cleargreen are still around, but just because their friends were in to that.
They aren’t active anymore, except to get as much attention as they can on Facebook, for having been close to celebrities.
Also some flaked out over time because it became clear nothing was happening. They wanted someone else to tell them what to practice, and that didn’t turn out well.
And some became “inventory experts”, with their minds filled with facts from the books, which made them believe they understood.
Some even have youtube channels featuring the words, “Toltec”, and “Nagual”.
That’s the warning sign you need to run for your life!
I suppose most of the time, people just want some sort of mental discipline to use to pattern their lives, and don’t actually believe in real magic.
Carol Tiggs said, women are just looking for a lifestyle.
It’s true.
I’ve been battling this for the last 20 years. The potential loss of Carlos’ knowledge.
I tried to form my own lineage using the second double woman I accidentally bumped into, and 4 potential witches of different directions.
But it was a disaster.
It took 2 years of stalking to test them out, and a total of 7 before I figured out the internet was where you could find people willing to learn.
And the problem of “inventory hotshots” is huge.
They blow through here with an attitude once a month, saying things that harm others ability to learn.
When I contradict them, they argue.
But I can’t back down on the spread of harmful information, it defeats my purpose here.
So I get a little more aggressive in explaining the mistake, and they condemn me and leave.
Sometimes their heads explode on the way out.
I’m getting a taste of what Carlos went through in private classes.
Since you’re a private class member, let me ask you what killed Carlos?
Hint: it wasn’t cancer.
It was private classes and cleargreen.
Even Howard Lee said, you can’t have that many apprentices.
It’ll make you sick.