Love that quote , but I think we might be missing OP’s point here. The real head-scratcher is about “seeing” itself - it’s literally the foundation of everything we’re discussing here.
Like, how can we have meaningful conversations about assemblage point shifts and their properties if we’re starting from the premise that none of it is actually true ? 
It feels like we’re trying to build a house while saying the foundation might be imaginary and it doesn’t matter, if that makes sense?
I don’t see where we are starting from the premise that none of it is actually true.
>and wondering if it’s “true” is irrelevant
This does not say anything about starting from a premise that none of it is true.
You’ve added your own meanings to the books, possibly based on other fake magical systems and religions, and what they falsely claim.
Sorcery is “the mastery of intent”.
That’s all it is!
Which means, moving your assemblage point until you can play with the source of the flow of sensations and feelings, coming from the dark sea of awareness.
Who said something is “imaginary” even if you can see it right there in front of you?
Sorcerers never do that.
I believe there’s a suitable quote in the books on that.
But that prejudice, that something has to be “profitable” (thus true) is what blocks you from learning exactly what you really are.
Just some puffs of awareness designed to cause the dark sea of emanations to transmit feelings back to you.
Whatever “owns” the universe, likes the interplay of energy when it does that. It likes to see how you “feel about things”.
I guess that adds meaning to the chaos?
There’s nothing indicating what it is, so it’s pretty much hopeless.
I’d have to watch a couple of hours of that kind of animation, to find it.
Maybe Jadey knows?
It’s the jet black that got me interested when that happened a few days ago.
30 years.
I’m celibate, so that’s not going to happen.
And it’s very true that “knowledge” isn’t the same as “truth”.
Thus to me, “seeing” is good enough, and wondering if it’s “true” is irrelevant. That’s just an attempt to turn it into something you can benefit from, in the “river of shit”.
Just to clarify - not trying to be controversial, just working through the logic!
So if we’re saying that the knowledge from “seeing” doesn’t equal truth (which is what these statements suggest), then shouldn’t we also be questioning everything we’ve been told about reality and the assemblage point? I mean, all of this knowledge came from “seeing” in the first place, right? 
Just connecting the dots here, but it seems like a pretty big deal. If we can’t trust “seeing” as a source of truth, how can we trust what was “seen” about these core concepts?
In Silent Knowledge, you “know” things, but they pertain to what you are seeing, and not necessarily to your normal life in the river of shit.
“Don’t concern yourself with that.” He laughed. "You know that such realizations are a dime a dozen; they don’t amount to anything in the life of warriors, because they are canceled out as the assemblage point shifts.
These two are almost exactly the same (same meaning anyways). I see nothing that is a big deal at all. Maybe keep reading and keep practicing, I hope you’ve started practicing too.
But that prejudice, that something has to be “profitable” (thus true) is what blocks you from learning exactly what you really are.
Just wanted to clear something up - I never actually said anything about things needing to be “profitable”! 
What I’m trying to get at is this: if we’re saying that what comes from “seeing” isn’t true, then logically, all the facts we got from “seeing” would also fall into the “not true” category, right? And here’s the ironic bit - the entire teaching system in the books comes from truths that were discovered through “seeing”! Just trying to point out the contradiction here!
Your consternation is a tied to the unspoken and learned agreement that this reality is not an exceptionally vivid illusion.
But all realities are by nature an illusion. Equally.
The only thing that makes this one so tangibly vivid is the number of occupants holding it in place.
Strength of signal, from the cumulative intent of billions over time.
What comes from “seeing” is true about what you’re seeing at the time.
Visually, not imagined! Who can do that???
No one that I’m aware of. Certainly not Yogis or Buddhist “masters”. They only see what they see, with their eyes closed. And then exaggerate or misrepresent it for profit.
Sorcery “sees” into alternate realities. Too many to even count. So most of what you “see” will be about a different version of reality.
If you cared about it being “true”, you couldn’t go anywhere.
True is only valid in this river of shit reality!
But if you’re seeing something about this specific reality, then it’s true here.
It’s just that such a thing is very rare. And maybe it only happens if you have a legitimate “need” which infinity approves of.
It happens though.
I tell the true story of Nintendo trying to stop me from making video games back in the 1990s, by getting a patent on the shape of their Nintendo original game system cartridges.
I was out of business, because they sent me an angry letter to inform me I had to stop, now that they got their new patent.
But then using silence that evening, I “saw” a different shape of cartridge’s that didn’t violate the patent, rushed to my office to build one out of cardboard, and it fit!
I sold $8M as a result of their patent, because I was the only other company who knew how to make plastic cartridges which fit without violating the patent.
But that wasn’t a fluke. I do a lot of my engineering that way.
For example, two days ago I “saw” how to make what DeepSeek made as a substitute for ChatGPT AI, that caused so much turmoil in the stock market early in the week.
They made what ChatGPT AI can do, for half the cost.
Of course, they stole the training from others and used grey market chips.
But people were excited because it costs less.
So being curious about that, I got a lecture through “seeing” on how to do it for 1/10th the cost, and 24 times faster than ChatGPT. Not to mention 1/10th less power too.
(continued)
I started a patent application for it today, after verifying that it will work for sure, asking ChatGPT to check the specifics.
He called it “innovative and revolutionary”.
But I didn’t actually invent it…
It’s such a simple idea, any engineer will instantly understand it. And wish they had the patent on it.
I’d tell you how, but then my patent application is void.
THAT was “true”.
A patent worth billions of dollars, if I get the time to finish the design.
But last night I also “saw” how to bend backwards into a loop, the way the old seers did.
And realized that my “bad” Ally Fancy had taught me that, when she helped me create a personal tensegrity form a couple of years ago, from pieces of other forms.
I never realized what that particular move was for, until last night when I “saw” it work.
The new seers use “Stellar Hatch” to stretch themselves to reach other stars.
Stretch their luminous shell.
Don Juan said that the old seers were more interested in human realms (pranking other old seers with their new powers I assume), and so they bend backwards into circular shapes that didn’t rise much higher than their own height (relatively).
I “saw” how to do that, and did.
Is that “true” here?
I don’t know how you’d even apply that to anything you could measure as “true”.
As don Juan told Carlos when he asked what an old seer who bent himself into a donut shape, would look like?
And don Juan said, “Like a man, of course. What else?”
However, if it bothers you, Cholita can break the laws of physics in front of others.
Once in a while she does it for me (if I manage to bribe her with a huge shopping spree and then get her a little drunk on Mojitos).
And she can do a bunch of other “impossible” stuff.
By manipulation of reality.
Or by bewitching wildlife in the neighborhood.
The new seers were said to be so powerful, they could change any aspect of reality.
Except, they always remembered what it would have been, had they not changed it.
So what it became, wasn’t actually “true”.
Just what now is.
That pass appears to be “the Axis Breath” Its in the Tensegrity videos, Volumne ! , releassed in 1994 with Kylie Lundahl, Reni Murez and Nyei Murez performing the movements. At 21;57 minutes. I like it, its become one I now always do in dark room
Noice!! Thank you! Have to ask, it’s a legit pass from CC not one made up by Cleargreen or Nyei? I’ve watched some interviews with Nyei and she’s off course IMO.
30 years, aka 3 decades? HOLY MOLY MAN! You must be loaded for grizzly bear.
Yes , I am certain it is legit. That it is also being posted here , assures that. The Tensegrity CD and now video show it in its fullness, and is how I do it.
Those Ai videos Dan makes are pretty good for instruction. I’ve learned 2 passes from them now.
Carlos told his entire private class to do that, but apparently, looking back with help from women in the class, it was party central.
but the witches claimed that dreaming energy IS sexual energy.
I suppose it could seem like that, but it’s a lot more complicated than that from what I’ve seen.
In which interview did you see Cholita? Can you share the link?
Not blowing sunshine up your backside, but we are lucky to have access to you and Jadey, and that you both take the time for this sub/people, which comes with a never ending flow of bad actors and newbs (like myself). I’m never looking to contradict, only to learn. I’ve been reading (even benefiting) from CC’s work since the 90s.
I remember the sperm worms and the explanation made me think of the “7yr itch” as it called. It’s in Taisha or Florida’s book. Also it makes biological sense that dreaming energy is sexual energy. I know you don’t like connecting modern social and scientific findings with sorcery, but there’s connections, as civilization/science advances. I like to understand the sorcery, and when o think into it, it makes sense that sperm carries awareness in the process of conception. Something lesbian orgies, altho hella fun! cant do.
Not that what I think matters, but I can see some areas of modern science is proving the sorcery aka energetic capabilities via perception of humans with quantum computers, multiverse, to human luminosity.