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Those are NOT a pleasant path to take. I can’t imagine anyone enjoying that as a beginner’s path. Might even lead to suicidal tendencies.
What you’re talking about is PRETENDING to be following that path, while COMPLETELY ignoring the instructions.
So that you can misrepresent ordinary dreams as progress, to get attention with people.
4 gates dreaming is INEVITABLE once you reach Silent Knowledge, because you can walk right into a sleeping dream, directly from awake.
thus “the third gate”.
Which can ONLY be reached when you ahve silence levels hight enough to go directly into the dream, without going to sleep.
Thus “the twin positions” technique.
But at the second gate you MUST go to the inorganic being’s world, FOR REAL, and perhaps 100 times or more before you can pass that gate, learing from them each visit. They do in fact teach so fast that it’s frustrating and impossible to remember it all.
NO ONE every does those two. They just lie and say it happened once, and then claim they passed that gate.
Even worse, NO ONE finds their hands each time.
At the first gate.
That is MANDITORY in order to merge your tonal “reason and purpose” with the double’s supernatural powers of dream exploration.
So people don’t even do 4 gates dreaming at all.
They just lie.
Finding your hands every night, is next to impossible.
I managed to do that, and even as many as 6 times in a single night, but only because I put in an extraordinary effort.
Besides, darkroom allows you to pass all 4 gates, while awake!
If you give it a serious try, I’ll point out when you passed one.
It’s kind of obvious, but people never seem to notice.
I made a picture of the dreaming emissary teaching me in her realm, but while I was awake.
She taught me dozens of times like that, before I moved beyond that assemblage point position.
By the way, they take on whatever form they believe keeps your interest best.
That’s “Fancy”, my untamed Ally from childhood.
Not particularly “nice” like Little Smoke, but a very good teacher.
I will take a look, thanks
I see, will try and progress more on dark room from now on.
Any tips on how i can try to stop “ruining” my silence by noticing it?
And can tobacco be bad for my learning? What about marijuana? I’ve heard that they can kinda “lock” your AP in place ig you smoke a lot or make it harder to loosen it, is it true?
Tobacco is one of the things which actually helps darkroom.
Marijuana is neutral. Might help get to the green zone, but it pulls you back slightly from the red.
And no, it’s not true that they lock your assemblage point in place. Whoever is saying that, is a pretender.
But if you use it too much, you’ll have doubts about the magic you manage to do.
And the magic is always more vivid, if you avoid marijuana.
Also, marijuana makes it very hard to get up to practice, in the middle of the night.
The best time for it.
How can tobacco help me?
And what about me noticing my internal dialogue, i never seen anyone talking about that.
Try some nicotine gum before darkroom practice.
But it’s not any help once you get past the red zone at the bottom.
And insignificant compared to being very sincere and regular, in your practice.
As for what no one ever talks about, “you noticing your internal dialogue” is what “darkroom” practice is all about.
There’s not much we can say, except that you have to have absolutely no words, not a single one, in your internal dialogue while practicing darkroom, for at least 2 minutes before you should expect your assemblage point to move.
And you MUST find some puffs or glowing colors, to get it to move further than just enough to see them.
You use the second attention sights (the puffs of color) to pull your assemblage point down your back.
But if you have an internal dialogue going on, that prevents it.
Because each word focuses your “attention” on this reality.
You need to let go of it.
The way we can tell when a new person is never going to learn, is that they don’t quickly know precisely how long they can go without words.
Or if they say, “10 minutes”.
Or even “3 hours” as one guy claimed yesterday or the day before!
No beginner is likely to go longer than 10 seconds, and most can only 2 seconds.
If you don’t know how long you can go after the first practice session, you’re doing it wrong.
You can find out right now. Get the second hand on a clock, let it go to the top, and then see how far it goes, before a word pops into your mind.
2 seconds is my bet.
Lol, the max i’ve done while dark rooming or during the day was less than 10 seconds, in talking about my record, normally i cant go more than 2 or 3 seconds.
What i can’t understand is how i can have absolute zero words in my head if all i can do is 5 seconds max and they come back, and that is when i use a technique i found that helps me more where i cut the word going on in my head in the middle and stop my breath at the same time, but when inhale again it comes back.
Will i be able to see energy puffs with that much silence? And if i do, what should i do after they pop up?
When you notice your thoughts/fantasising coming back you just stop them. And continue to force silence. Again and again. That’s it for all of us. Silence is gained through continuous practice.
With continuous practice you gain more seconds of silence and you just progress with it.
You’ll see how this applies in action as you do it in Darkroom and in your daily life.
As Athina just told you, sorcery takes a lot of patience.
It’s real.
Unlike other magical systems which are pretending. So that the kind of concerns you have, are valid in those. Where you can just redefine things, to claim victory.
Not so if you are after the real thing.
And you don’t need more instructions, just more time doing it.
Yeah, not that I disagree of course, but by the time i notice that it had actually started, it might have been going on already for a long time. How do you shorten that time (of noticing it fast enough)?
And at one hand I know there is nothing that we can say about it but on the other hand I guess that is the only thing we have here to share… just a few written words..
I think I still do not try to force silence during the day and I noticed that it might be not appropriate when you go to a party for example, at least not when almost everyone knows you 
How do you shorten that time (of noticing it fast enough)?
With practice and becoming aware of yourself often within the day. Do a check in on yourself often. And actually intending it.
Silence is better to be done all day. It’s a matter of practicing. Is like training a muscle to lift with progressive overload. You wont lift the same at the first week as you will after 7 months of lifting.
I understand everyone goes by their days and such, so is better to do your work and chores forcing silence. They get better and easier to do.
Since you saw where silence is not appropriate for you, don’t do it there!