No, i agree. Maybe is the easiest or the fastest. Or maybe the good thing is that we can fully get the Intent of this sub.
What do you do to practice sorcery?
I have word from Fairy.
She’s willing to help you guys out.
But only by her decision.
It seems, she’s been doing that for thousands of years, and had a dry spell with no one to help.
She seems to actually be “the little smoke”. And Carlos deliberately unleashed her on faction #3. To continue what she’d been doing with don Juan’s lineage.
She figured out that the idea these days is not to frighten apprentices, but to work with them more steadily, in the absence of someone like don Juan.
When don Juan was around, she was the fright machine, to make the assemblage point move.
But that would be horrible in our cases. No don Juan to calm us down.
So she went along with the “pleasing form” idea.
She’s already made an appearance twice for people in this subreddit.
Main use for her: just watch.
And if you assemble another world on the horizon, she can grant entry.
She can also scare the shit out of you, if she decides to use her normal forms.
Just ignore it. Admire the view.
It’s another reason the dark room technique is so good.
If you get into big trouble, just turn on the lights.
So, people call those “hypnogogic” images at times.
Mr. DoubleTake rules the world, so all the people who even know that term assume it’s actually an insult. A way to explain them away.
You say, “I saw a cool looking ghost!”
They say, “It’s only a hypnogogic image.”
Shit!
Mr. DoubleTake is sneaky. Even when he can’t stop something, he can piss on it and ruin it.
But I know how to defeat him.
Inorganic Beings project themselves from a hive like realm.
We’re perceiving some kind of equivalent of a dreaming body.
And they don’t live in a “normal life” situation as we do.
Don Juan described sorcery as the process of undoing the harm caused by daily life.
To make it possible to be less rational and more flexible, by moving past the belief this is the only world, and our current view of it is fixed.
The inorganic beings have never been burdened by that view point. They have no organic body! So no daily strife from taking care of that.
And no hurry. They live billions of years.
So they have no “rationality” to hold them back. And they aren’t afraid to go anywhere they can. No body to harm.
They can remote view our world, or dreams, or even new worlds you assemble on a horizon.
They can inhabit your images also.
It’s just that, you won’t notice unless you can make them come back.
I’d try to get that tiger if you can!
Tigers are a fairly easy maneuver, seeing as how Carlos was doing breathing practice with a Saber Tooth Tiger around La Brea tar pits.
A lateral shift of the assemblage point, once it gets near the belly button, on the backside.
Could be, if you move your assemblage point down the J curve, to that red line I drew, you can even shapeshift into a tiger.
And that’s a common theme in some obscure martial arts. Assuming a tiger form.
Yes, but the disadvantages come later, when you’ll be perfectly happy to find a bigger space.
For instance, this technique inevitably leads to assembling another world.
But you won’t be able to enter it very easily, trapped in a closet.
That won’t matter. Just viewing it is so much fun, you won’t care.
The pitch blackness is a huge advantage if that’s your goal.
You can easily miss the beginnings of viewing energy on a horizon, if there’s light.
That’s because viewing energy on a horizon starts with viewing light in a dark room.
It seems unrelated. It’s absolutely pitch black, but you can see the room anyway.
And you get curious, how can that be possible???
So you walk around looking at things, to see if you can really see the edge of the bed, or the corner of the dresser.
In the process of doing that you discover, the details the light forms look more like a bamboo forest, than your bedroom.
Yes, it’s true you can see the room also. But as a series of flat surfaces, outlined in vague light, with lines in it that can’t be pinpointed as to location.
For the scientifically minded, maybe it’s some form of human sonar (known to exist) defining surfaces, and the second attention fills in details once you focus on that obscure sense.
So you walk over to look at those fine details on an easy to view surface, such as a clear wall in your room. It’s just easier to stand up and look, then to crawl around on the bed, or look at the top of the dresser.
Standing up near an entire wall now lit up by vague details, takes all the doubt out of the fact that you really are seeing that!
That’s why I get so depressed when newbies assume you have to imagine things.
Or why I get angry over in the shamanism form, where pretending seems to be 100%.
You can’t see your animal totem?
Get another hobby. You’ve been cheated by whoever taught you that.
Viewing energy on a wall (horizon), gets so real that the details that looked to you like a bamboo forest draw your attention in a bit, and that “dream” extends itself into the room.
Guess what? You just walked directly into dreaming from waking!
A reverse 4th gate maneuver!!
The dream extending into the room means, bamboo seems to be growing from the floor.
You’ll be afraid to even take a step, for fear of piercing your foot on a baby bamboo shoot.
It’s that real!
Try the south wall.
Carlos favored southern horizons in private class. It could be one reason he selected Dance Home as a permanent private class location.
He could face south while looking at the class, gazing just above them to form a horizon. And in that direction, there was only the brick wall side of a building.
A perfect direction to gaze, in order to teach us using intent as a guest lecturer.
He just read from the teleprompter.
If you had any light in your practice space, you might not think to investigate why you can see in the dark.
The ironic thing here is, either Carlos or Don Juan was making fun of us, with that initial task he gave Carlos to “find his spot”.
But you won’t get the joke until you can assemble other worlds on the walls of a room.
We could have stopped reading Carlos’ books as soon as we learned of that technique.
You don’t need any others. Everything flows from that.
Dreaming, stalking, recapitulation, assembling other worlds, stopping the world, inorganic beings.
All evolve inevitably from practicing “finding your spot”.
Carlos gave the most important first, like a messenger warning of an invading army.
In case we didn’t have time to read the rest of the details, he handed out the most important news first.
Gaze at flat surfaces looking for details that should not be there, and it works best when you keep it up until it’s dark.
I do magical passes for long time but As dani recommendation I started to do tensegrity in dark room and after 10 days amazingly i saw yellow and some rare blue colors around my self specially when i moved my hands during practicing.
Thats nice! She is welcome
That sounds good. Its very interesting the feeling of tensegrity in the dark room… doing some rapid movements breaking the quiet mood.
Here’s how to see the whorl:
As you force silence, and watch the colors, they’ll go through several stages.
Each stage indicates that the assemblage point has moved deeper along the J curve.
But unfortunately, the assemblage point is sticky.
Or maybe I should say FORTUNATELY, because if it wasn’t, we’d bounce from one world to the other, never able to remain anywhere.
As you learn to see colors, you get used to seeing them.
They become a “doing”.
Doing is what makes the assemblage point sticky. Knowing the doing, and doing it.
It’s like a monkey with his hand stuck in a coconut because someone put rice in there, and the hole is too small to pull his hand out while it’s grasping the rice.
His greed over a handful of rice keeps him trapped.
You need to look for other details, new ones.
But without having the internal dialogue take over managing that.
The order seems to be as follows, from the limited number of people practicing this and telling me about it.
A value sense of color.
A definite patch of color.
Multiple patches, scrolling across the view.
Scoopable (by faking it with the head) color.
Intense blackness showing up on the edges of the color.
Intense jet blackness swirling around, disturbing the colors and burning their edges into a different color, such as blue on the purple puffs.
Now, give it a little spin!
The sworl is when the blackness eats up the purple, which can’t be contained because it’s energy. So it takes a dip into another realm, and regenerates where the jet blackness has worn out.
You get a yin/yang look. Curse those Chinese sages!!!
An inorganic being can take over the sworl, and turn it into a power object for you.
Or, if it floats just above you, at “horizon” level, the sworl can spin off text you can read.
I never saw that pomegranate dot, but I suspect Carlos was just enticing us with that claim.
I do it all the time in here.
I just emphasize a detail that’s not really all that important, but which gives someone a goal that’s not going to interfere with their silence.
It makes the unreasonable sound reasonable.
It’s like telling a child who’s about to get a shot, that the medical equipment next to him can detect if it hurts, if he watches the monitor very closely.
I can make a darkroom category, but not make the link in the wiki. Techno will have to do that, from wherever he’s gone off to.
I have another project going right now, but let’s remember to make that link.
The main thing holding Castaneda people back, is often not wanting to be the one that got tricked.
Like a girl wanting to go on a date with “The Fonz”, but being afraid he’s going to take advantage of her. She might wait until a friend finds out if he’s safe:
Directionality comes when your dreaming body moves closer.
Scoop the colors onto your torso! Over and over, each day.
My guess: playing in dark like that, it’s easy to fall asleep and have the dreaming attention activate, even if you remain alert and conscious.
Sleep walking.
Directionality is when you are perceiving mostly with the dreaming attention, and not only with the first attention.
So I guess I could add (never thought of this), once you have directionality you can literally enter dreams or other worlds directly from your dark room.
Fairy’s pass is a locator signal designed by Fairy herself.
Yes, Carlos did teach us that.
But under strange circumstances.
He walked into class, and was already engaged in a conversation.
That was not uncommon. Carlos would be talking to one of the women about something, and then smoothly include the class in the conversation.
He demonstrated that head movement, without explaining why.
I assumed it was to protect you from pain, when your head fell forward while practicing silence. You can get a sore neck if it falls forward and you blank out for a long time.
He showed me the movement, standing not 18 inches away. I got the impression he was doing it because it had to be done then, and was more of a task than something he’d planned.
He might have “read it off the wall” and just went with it.
I’d forgotten it, until Fairy taught it to me again by flying around the right directions.
Then she urged me to go to work, draw it on my computer, and post it before sunrise.
I’d never taken orders from Fairy before, but it seemed like a good “jump”.
A nonsensical task no one in their right mind would perform.
So I did.
It paid off.
You do that pass, and Fairy can locate you anywhere.
If she’s interested.
Unfortunately for me, if she goes to visit you, I lose her that night.
I get Minx instead…
It’s in “Silent Knowledge” publication.
And it’s also the same technique as “finding your spot”.
I suspect it’s all over in the books. You just didn’t realize it.
The “wall of fog” is from this technique.
And of course, Zuleica teaches it to him, in Eagle’s Gift.
But to me, the most important reason to do it is, it’s real magic.
Right in your face.
The people who come through here and are fakes, are interested only in being known as a sorcerer.
Not in actually doing anything real.
Like that guy last week. He came in here, announced all his cool work he does, and we found out in the end he wanted to become a teacher. And replace Carlos who had gone bad, so we shouldn’t listen to Carlos anymore.
It was obvious if you read what he wrote, he was completely impotent as far as sorcery goes.
He wanted to put on a show at a waterfall, to impress people.
I told him how to accomplish that, in detailed steps.
But he ignored it, and started going on about old Chinese nonsense. He was designing a “new system” to sell. Me telling him how to actually do it, with stuff from Carlos’ books, didn’t fit in with his desire to create his own salable product.
An actual student of Carlos gave him instructions on how to do what he wanted, and he ignored them! Got annoyed even.
I wish I had an actual student of Carlos, telling me cool things to try that I hadn’t noticed.
He was all about how others saw him, completely obsessed with his self-image and getting attention and money from others.
He wasn’t interested in sorcery at all, and was willing to drag others down, to make himself feel better.
He was like a badminton coach, who really only wants to fuck the girls.
Well. Yes.
They’re pretty. Who doesn’t?
But you should be interested in badminton or you shouldn’t be hanging out with them.
So the definition of fake for me, is not someone who has other ideas.
It’s someone who’s there for another reason, and harming people who really want to learn by providing them with false or useless information which lures them into continuing to be lazy.
I’d be tickled pink if someone found something that really works, and could advise people step by step how to make that work for them.
That’s what we need.
Step by step. More variety.
But it has to produce very convincing results, so that people won’t quit in the long run.
By the way, I’m not even 1/10th as hard on anyone, as Carlos was.
Mostly I imitate him, but without the restrictions of not nagging anyone.
Carlos didn’t do nagging.
That was his downfall if you ask me. Probably he thought it was unseemly to nag.
I have no such limitation. I’m nearly always unseemly anyway.
Don Juan and Don Genaro himself nagged La Gorda:
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La Gorda:
Everything for a woman warrior starts in dreaming.
…
Every night I used to give myself the command to find my hands but it was to no avail. I never found anything in my dreams. The Nagual was merciless with me. He said that I had to find them or perish. So I lied to him that I had found my hands in my dreams.
The Nagual didn’t say a word but Genaro threw his hat on the floor and danced on it. He patted my head and said that I was really a great warrior. The more he praised me the worse I felt. I was about to tell the Nagual the truth when crazy Genaro aimed his behind at me and let out the loudest and longest fart I had ever heard. He actually pushed me backward with it. It was like a hot, foul wind, disgusting and smelly, just like me. The Nagual was choking with laughter.
“I ran to the house and hid there. I was very fat then. I used to eat a great deal and I had a lot of gas. So I decided not to eat for a while. Lidia and Josefina helped me. I didn’t eat anything for twenty-three days, and then one night I found my hands in my dreams. They were old and ugly and green, but they were mine. So that was the beginning. The rest was easy.”
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I wondered if that was possible.
To use only the Tensegrity.
At the last workshop I attended, after Carlos died, Cleargreen had the lights turned down in the practice hall.
They seemed to be aware that darker could enhance Tensegrity.
And it did! I saw a great band of emanations that workshop, while doing the tensegrity in subdued lighting.
I should have shouted that out-loud, so the entire audience would know that the Tensegrity can produce dreaming.
But Carlos had blown the group up so well, I was bitter.
I even passed on the invitation I got to join up with Cleargreen.
Attend their private practice sessions.
Bruce gave it to me.
I just couldn’t. Carlos had put a wedge between his factions.
Each one suspected the other of something awful.
He created the same situation he wrote about in Second Right of Power.
All the apprentices were suspicious of each other.
Carlos did that on purpose.
Partly to fulfill the rule.
Break up the group when the Nagual leaves, and someone has to put them back together again.
But maybe he did it too well, because his detractors interviewed classmates and used it against him.
That was the last I saw of Cleargreen. That workshop.
About the colors:
Just watch! The lights become brighter and brighter.
That plus silence is the goal. To watch.
Carlos hid some magical techniques in there!
They’re loaded up with nasty old sorcerer techniques.
But the only way to uncover those, is by watching what the colors do.
Hints: Tickling the web is a lot more than it appears to be.
It’s the doorway from puffs of colors, to seeing the emanation themselves.
And to daytime gazing using cobwebs. Gazing using feelings in the air.
V spot produces a mirror of the second attention. Supposedly if you can view yourself in that mirror, you gain more control over your physical matter.
The technique which involves visualizing a ball of energy on the floor, then gazing it up into the sky, is for teleportation. Anyone know the name of that one?
Hopefully you’ll uncover some more. Each movement is precious to us.
I spent 40 years doing martial arts, sometimes as long as 6 hours a day, at 3 different styles at the same time.
I’m kind of sick of that sort of thing. So uncovering all of the tensegrity is not on my list of things to do.
I’d much rather learn to chase Cholita around in dream worlds.
She didn’t like me finding her fractured house, and won’t sleep in my home anymore. She goes to her she-shed at night and tries to make it look like she’s not home.
She deactivated the power spot for entry there.
It’s all gone.
I’ll tell her for you.
When she gets back.
She’s thousands of miles away by now.
Yes it’s really interesting specially when you see colors. One thing helped me a lot : recapitulation.
It is very useful for me
I dance.
I’ve been working with the dark room for a bit now, especially now I’ve gotten it really really dark. I haven’t had the energy though, to stay up for hours doing it, partially, I think, because I’ve resumed (it’s been quite awhile) doing some passes on a fairly regular basis. I’m very sensitive to them so when I do them I get boosts of energy which I then use to notice and then work on areas of my life that I’ve been sleepily neglecting. So I use up the energy before I get to the night time. I’m sure I can adjust. However, I’ve succeeded surprisingly well with the room darkening. To me this means intent is in favor of this for me. I have tried for years to darken bedrooms with no success for sleep purposes, but this time it has been pretty simple. Ok, I had to work for three nights on the smoke alarm, but I knew I’d get that part if I bought enough of the right tape. So it’s dark.
. Lately I see mostly a sort of charcoal colored background mixed with patches of dull purple-ish. Then bits of more complex chartreuse move around it all. Can’t make heads nor tails of it. I do note tiny flashes of bright white at the far corners of my peripheral vision, now and then. Especially on the left side.
Mostly I’m quite the bold person, especially in these matters, but even though I really think nothing of this so far, at least what I’ve been able to see, it sometimes scares me a little. I think part of my problem is that when I was little and would be sick with the flu or something, I guess my assemblage point would shift somehow and I’d wake up in the dark and look and my bedcovers would seem to be similar to these colors and moving in a chaotic, nauseating way. It always reminded me of scrambled eggs, for some reason. But then my body seemed to change too. I remember my fingers would look and feel like only bones. Can’t describe it exactly. It was very strange, and terrifying to me. I remember once climbing down from my upper bunk bed (miracle I didn’t crack my skull open in my panicky haste) and running downstairs where my dad was watching tv. He was actually pretty great about it. He let me stay as long as I needed to normalize myself while assuring me that he understood, as he’d had the experience himself, which I doubt, but it helped. So, sorry for the long story, but I think that’s partially what scares me, even though I don’t really believe that will happen. I hadn’t thought of it in years. I will continue though.
One other thing about seeing lights. For years now, ever since my encounters with the invisible feller, I often see a tiny point of light (broad daylight or darkness) it’s always a periwinkle blue and off to the side. Don’t know what it could be, though my erstwhile ‘clairvoyance’ teacher some years back said it was a sign of someone having attention on you. I asked if that one could be a spirit. She said no. So, I’m left clueless as always.
Lastly, at least for the moment, Dan, I have question that’s been bothering me regarding the IOBs. I’m confused. I read and reread The Art of Dreaming and of course am fascinated like everyone else by the IOB’s world. Above you referred to them and their hive-like world. Carlos talked a lot about it and Don Juan apparently said a dreamer has to visit there to get the energy for further dreaming, but hopefully at some point can bypass all that (as they try to imprison you, particularly if you’re male).
I got the idea there are gazillions of different IOBs in the universe, so to speak. And lots of different worlds to visit, as you yourself mention. So I’d love to know, are those of our twin world the only ones we deal with? If so, why? Are allies only from are twin world? I’ve not seen this specified anywhere. Me, as a woman, I’ve got nothing against the idea of a feminine twin world, but would love to explore much more. Or am I talking third attention here?
Also, I forgot. Another thing I noticed was that when gazing at the lights, at times when my inner talk would resume for a moment, like with a memory or projection, I would stop it, and then notice that I actually wasn’t seeing the stuff in the dark while in a memory. So weird! Something similar must happen when we’re running around in daytime life. Another benefit of the attempt to stop the inner talk.
As you said when I’m in silence, colors are visible but I can’t keep silence more than a few movement.I keep going as far as i can.
Your advices are very useful and make me happy when you share your experience.
I really appreciate it.
How is moving like for her?