Seeing Purple in Dark Room

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Fair enough

I find it pretty disturbing, i knew a person that had it so i spend alot of time in the sleep paralysis sub reddit tracking the patterns

I discovered alot of people think they have their eyes open but are actually dreaming with their eyes still closed
But another group has their real eyes open as verivied by others

Yeah i think so as well to Its most likely the sleep mechanism failing. Or waking up mechanism Creating altered states that arent really usefull.
Waking up from a lucid dream produces it for alot of people

Some traditions say though consistent sleep paralysis can also be due to spirit attack - whitch seems to be the case for some of these people i spoke with

In your experience do you thiink its always the case theyl interact different?
Because ive spoken to guys that were under attack everyday. They had horrendous shit happen. Some woke up with marks.
It wasnt just a shadow in the corner

I learned flicking the tip of your tongue or putting it to the roof of your palet is the easiest way to go - as just about anybody is able to focus their mind to move the tip of their tongue - it will get most people out.
A sleep scientist told me that.
As alot of people cant get themselves to wiggle their toes or roll

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Some traditions say though consistent sleep paralysis can also be due to spirit attack

That’s my interpretation of how the allies can hold you on the ground.

They aren’t strong enough. But they do have some ability to extend sleep paralysis.

They can micro move the assemblage point!

I actually witnessed Fancy doing that for me last night. She formed a brown dot, and swooped over me.

It was odd. When Fairy does that, the swoop is jet black. Always.

I never saw a brown one.

Yes, they will ALWAYS interact.

I’ve been a consultant to a few with this problem. It always turns out they can learn to make friends with it.

It usually turns out, they don’t like the results. Because some of what they were after was the attention of complaining about it to others.

Woke up with marks?

They always say that. It gives them more attention.

I constantly find I have some marks on my arm, and can’t recall at all where I got them.

Usually it turns out it was gardening.

Having wounds you don’t notice is merely a sign of adulthood.

Tongue tip to end it?

Good tip. I hadn’t discovered that.

And toes makes sense too!

The main point is to move somehow, and that can jar you awake.

But I still think you could learn to live with it, and just go ahead and experience the second attention that way.

It would do wonders for your lucid dreaming, because it would stabilize the assemblage point at that position.

Right about the time I figured that out (30 years ago?), and even looked forward to sleep paralysis, it went away.

There’s an initial moment when you tell yourself, “I’m just going to experience this, and not try to stop it.”, where you feel like it’s just too much to take. It’s like electricity, or having your legs fall asleep.

Not pleasant.

But the instant you go ahead and decide to suffer, it lessens.

I suppose it might be like, “wrestling an ally”.

I’ve found that I have to wrestle “Fancy” at every turn.

But only once for each bad behavior.

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I could never speak when I used to get sleep paralysis when I first read the books. Once I got it after I’d left my body, dreaming, and decided to go back in cuz I was a little scared. I was quite lucid as I knew exactly where my body was and tried to walk to it, which of course doesn’t work too well. Then I remembered in ‘the Art of Dreaming’ Castaneda learned the way to move in dreams is to intend or will it, so I did and soon felt myself melting into my body. But I was paralyzed for a bit. Terrifying. I definitely couldn’t move anything. I tried to call for help but couldn’t. I figured afterwards I just wasn’t totally back in my body right away. Though it’s true, they do say we’re most of us paralyzed while we sleep so we don’t fall out of bed or anything.

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There could be another thing going on here.

The IOBs can kidnap you up until you learn to move around in your second attention’s energy body.

The one Zuleica’s technique builds up for you.

So I picture they can take your dreaming double, and leave it paralyzed in their realm. It ends up in the state that Carlos was in at the end of Zuleica’s technique, before he could stand himself up on a tentacle.

As a woman, you’re sleep paralysis might be intrinsically different.

You might be 90% dreaming double, 10% waking body. While the men are mostly waking body when paralyzed.

I don’t know for sure, but anyone who practices darkroom gazing until they start to travel to other worlds, will come to realize there’s very odd things going on.

For instance, I can reach behind Fancy’s cloak and pull out objects.

One time I was doing that and tossing them to my left, and my arm hit the bed post. It hurt!

I saw the object in my hand as clear as day. But didn’t think to feel if it was solid.

Another time I was doing the exact same thing, at another spot in the room.

It wasn’t until the next day I realized I was reaching behind the actual physical wall. Fancy’s cloak had been right up against the east wall.

But that didn’t stop me from reaching in my hand.

So in the first case, it was my real physical hand.

In the other it could not have been.

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Coolness!

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I can’t speak or move or even have my eyes open when I experience a sleep paralysis. If I don’t get too scared and terrified of the pressure and ringing in my ears and allow myself to fall asleep I used to end up in a lucid dream. Nowadays I am even hoping for a sleep paralysis, but like you said, it doesn’t seem to happen anymore…

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My theory: Once you realize you should tolerate it and see what happens, you just wrestled that Ally.

And for any given horrible trick they pull, you only have to wrestle them once.

They stop doing that.

In the case of Fancy, she might try twice, but it’ll be under different circumstances.

Wrestle = get over your fear and stand up to them.

While they’re doing bad things, they’re also teaching us. Which might be why the limit on how many times they’ll do that, once you stand up to them.

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My theory: Once you realize you should tolerate it and see what happens, you just wrestled that Ally.

In my case not!

I started having sleeping paralysis since I started practicing lucid dreaming. And I still have them, maybe once a week.

When I am paralized I just relax 10 seconds, and roll. The most wonderful and real lucid dreams I had, started from a paralysis.

So I love them, and I also have techniques to produce it, like sleeping in a strange position, feel the vibrations, imagine that you are spinning, etc.

And yes, IOBs in sleeping paralysis are strong…

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So I felt like I was misleading when I said you wouldn’t get it again, after you got used to it.

I meant, the part where the son of Satan is looming over the bed, eyeing your butt hole.

Shirley MacClain didn’t “wrestle” that ally, and so it happened to her over and over again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw6ZgK656wk

Not such a bad thing though, if you’re the son of Satan. Here’s Shirley in her glory. She wanted to be a Castaneda groupie.

But it’s natural, so I suppose it can repeat.

It just went away for me around 20 years ago.

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Right, OK, I was looking and just read your message about your experience and I had something very similar last night. The night before I had again something similar but what I saw. Eyes open in a pitch dark room was a purple storm. Strange but pleasant.

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Last night, in the same pitch darn room, eyes open. There was a purple energy around me. Quite beautiful. I’d love for someone to explain these experiences.

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In case you’re still monitoring this user account after presumably deleting it, we were going to add you to the public chat group which sometimes is a better place to ask less pressing questions.

But no explanation will serve you half as well as regular experience. And if you get enough of that you’ll get your own explanations.

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I just witness this also but I was just trying to go to sleep it was beautiful but when I opened my eyes it kept happening I was seeing shapes and it looked like smoke I kinda got scared so I turned on my phone and it went away

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You just stated the reason, with a modern twist, why this natural human capacity is blocked in adults. We’ve been coerced into actively repressing it, thru a lifetime of subsconcious social cues since childhood; and we employ them habitually by the time we reach adulthood.

Essentially all the variety of practices in this path are intended to overwrite those habits, but they require close to the same level of time and investment as the ones installed since childhood to repress the second attention.

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I literally experienced this yesterday and came to Reddit to see if anyone out there had the same experience and this is crazy.

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I’ve been seeing purple too most the times I’m in a dark room with no light on my vision and I don’t know what it means. It’s like it covers my vision but sometimes I can see through it but usually it’s a purple energy looking thing that keeps growing