In my case I could stay there for good while in real world and without drugs of course. The inorganic beings were always close and trying to have a deal. Eventually after days like this I had to start the internal dialog again and wasnt that easy, I had to really work hard to activate it again.
But thats all not too practic for me, the most important is that I tried to enhance seeing, first from the glimses of those lines and then further. Other stuff possible was for example to allow regular people I was talking to also hear the inorganics, but unfortunately just scared the daylight of them.
Also tried changing object or my own appearance for example making my hair purple and got confirmation from others that is really changed - of course they asked why tf I dyed my hair with such a stupid color))
And that was 10 years ago. I think many people cant believe that others have done stuff, its just too unusual. So thats normal, the only thing that matter is our own experience and if we can learn from others then we should use that for sure.
Then you are wasting your time still talking about other methods, Don Juan already told you that mysticism can move the assemblage point, so there is absolutely nothing to it. No one here is concerned with good feelings, because that can be done simply by hitting the snooze button on your alarm clock. All you’ve been doing is moving your assemblage point, it’s easy to do, it just takes work.
“It is,” he assured me. “This is another of the sorcerers’ contradictions: it’s very difficult and yet it’s the simplest thing in the world. I’ve told you already that a high fever could move the assemblage point. Hunger or fear or love or hate could do it; mysticism too, and also unbending intent, which is the preferred method of sorcerers.”
Silence isn’t an accomplishment you hang on a wall — it’s a house you learn to live in. If you’ve lived there wouldnt be much talking whats true or not - doesnt matter if you achieve it throught doctrines or just if someone hit you on the head with a slipper.
Funny thing: you can move an assemblage point with fever, hunger or love, sure — but doing it and staying there without being eaten by your tonal is a different sport. If it were just “work,” gyms would be full of sorcerers and Reddit would be a temple.
Did you skip the part where I mentioned mysticism as being equivalent to hunger and fever? I’m not interested in other methods and neither should you be, at least if you want to call yourself a sorcerer. The simple fact of the matter is that everyone is given a chance for a chance, but only the sorcerers went all the way.
Mixing methods is a practical reality for many of us; that’s not the point. The point is this: ‘stopping the world’ won’t fix an unshaken ego. I know Castaneda’s texts well and have practiced widely — and experience shows the first job after any breakthrough is to dismantle your need to be admired. Until that’s handled, declarations about who’s ‘gone all the way’ read as theater.
And definetly dont want to call myself a sorcerer, dont care much about titles.
Mixing methods is not a practical reality, you only tell yourself it is a practical reality, because you are plagued by the fliers’ mind still. You can simply set down your inventory about mixing methods being a practical reality.
“This sorcerer’s description is of course our ultimate nemesis; we don’t want to believe that we are being raised for food. In this sense, naturally, the sorcerers’ tradition is at total variance with any other kind of spiritual tradition. Sorcerers say, and believe me, not out of cynicism, that every ideal we deal with in terms of spiritual traditions, religions, etc, is a device concocted by the flyers to keep us in a lull. Imagine our disquietude upon examining, weighing and pondering this proposition.”
You say ‘set down your inventory’ — neat sentence. Meanwhile the people actually staying in the house of silence don’t spend mornings rehearsing slogans. If you truly left the fliers’ playbook, applause wouldn’t be your habit. When theres a problem with self importance not much is left to talk about practices.(mixed or not)
But I don’t spend mornings rehearsing slogans, I just laugh at your idea that “mixing methods is a practical reality” when it is not.
If laughing at others is your method, fine. My method is silence and work. Nothing to prove, nothing to win.
Yes, I laugh at a petty tyrant 
Don Juan also laughed a lot because he liked to laugh. All I say is that you don’t have to make it a practical reality, you simply choose to, and choices have consequences.
Fine, you caught me — I was the petty tyrant all along, just playing here for sport. The real joke is imagining Don Juan wasting even one second on a forum where half of us can’t type three lines without trying to prove we’re sorcerers. That’s the funniest thing of all.
But isn’t it basic? You simply feel attacked over the idea that “mixing ideas is a practical reality” which is a product of the fliers’ mind. Your disquietude has already jumped out and made you want to take a piss on this forum, where people do focus on silence and work.