Could you please share the woman-nagual picture with me?
Listen, if you are to look at it that way, then CC’s legacy falls into that unproven category as well. I haven’t seen anyone first hand and the whole thing might be a fairy tale just like some people proclaim. Not only that, they wrote whole books on the topic. If the only evidence you accept is first hand experience, then we are left with very few options: my personal journey and experience from my closest friends, who don’t have any incentive to lie to me about such delicate truths and questions. So I won’t be naming the world famous examples: kahuna, reiki surgeons, aborigines, meso-american(even though many of those are documented on camera). Yes, many of these people use rituals, but some of them are effective to a certain extent. Let’s stick to my own research. As I live in the balkan region, magic was always a thing. However, older people were the ones who talked about witches and unusual things. There is a study published in UK that found that the number of reported cases of mysterious creatures and phenomena is tremendously decreasing. As we got hooked on technology and thoroughly “educated” by the system, it seems that the modern man has lost connection to other worlds. Belief plays a crucial role as well. Some people firmly believe stories like CC opus are simply fiction or psychosis. I have heard about extremely peculiar phenomena, some of it almost surpassed CC and those things were shared by a person who is an absolute skeptic. If it wasn’t a first hand experience, he wouldn’t believe it in a million years. Apart from that, I have personally used visualization to heal myself. It worked, much more efficiently than medication. Actually, medication didn’t help, that is why I resorted to some other methods. The system that did the trick is actually heavily influenced by kaballah and tree of life. It all boils down to visualization, breathing and celibate (this one is truly important). There are also some other events that I managed to pull off (create?), which weren’t likely to happen ever, but they did, just as I needed them to. It did seem as if I managed to wish/intend the circumstances I sought for. By the way, I was obsessed with impeccable behavior way before I even read the teachings. I know that your stance is that one is not to bother about that and that it comes as a result of doing magic, but I can assure you that just this simple rule of keeping your actions in alignment with your decisions and judgements makes an enormous difference in your life. You don’t even have to know about the intent and that you maintain a good tonal this way, it just works wonders. That is magic in itself. Once you thread firmly on that path, the universe starts to rearrange in your favor!
Ah, what a Mezcalito so Cachondito!
I feel bad about re-uploading the photo, especially when you already have the medicine to find it: /t/the-eye/4519/26?context=3&utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Reading the Complete Post Index, I came across that photo once, twice, then three times. The third time I said: “It was destiny,” and I downloaded it. So, I wouldn’t want you to miss out on all those readings.
In the meantime, here’s something about nosebleeds, tinnitus, and the behavior of male and female chimpanzees: /t/whats-the-matter-with-nose-bleeds/3272
The woman with grey hair in the back row, all the way on the left, in this pic.
And she’s right of center in the back row in this pic.
And I made a post comparing the difference between her two eyes, purely out of curiosity.

So you’re a magic groupie.
I wish you’d go hang out elsewhere, where you can’t actually do any harm.
Even your user ID is harmful in here.
Here we go! From ChatGPT:
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Question:
Did anyone ever analyze all the various motivations for people believing in religion and pretend magical systems? There must be a list somewhere.
ChatGPT said:
Yes — this has been studied from a lot of angles: anthropology, psychology, sociology, and cognitive science. Scholars have made lists of why humans so often develop and cling to religion or magical systems.
Here’s a synthesized “motivation map” from the research:
Psychological motivations
- Fear of death → religion promises afterlife, continuity, or reincarnation.
- Need for control → rituals and magic give the illusion of influencing uncontrollable events (weather, illness, fertility).
- Cognitive bias → our brains are wired to see agency (better to mistake the wind for a predator than the other way around). This makes gods/spirits “feel real.”
- Comfort / reduction of anxiety → prayer, ritual, and belief calm the nervous system.
Social motivations
- Group cohesion → shared rituals and beliefs strengthen bonds and cooperation.
- Authority & hierarchy → religious systems legitimize leaders (priests, kings).
- Morality enforcement → “the gods are watching” motivates honesty and altruism, especially in large groups.
- Identity → belonging to a religion gives a clear sense of “us vs. them.”
So yes — people have analyzed this to death. Religion and magical thinking persist because they scratch so many deep human itches: fear, control, belonging, meaning, morality, survival.
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None of that has anything to do with this subreddit.
It’s here to teach a specific technology.
Once you’ve been in here as long as you have, and still don’t realize that, you don’t really belong in here.
It’s not fair to others who actually want to learn.
And there’s plenty of pretend Castaneda discussion groups to inhabit.
Why here if you think it’s not true???
And if you DO think it’s true, why won’t you learn it?

I am not following you. How is this nose bleeding connected? Anyway, I read the OP’s post, but I guess that isn’t enough. Are referring to dan’s comment or what?
Thank a lot mate. If only other members would be so normal/easygoing/down to earth. I remember don saying that the secret is in the left eye, that is, there is always something about the left eye that distinguishes a sorcerer from normal people.
This kind of response deserves no further discussion.
Does my username cause emotional damage to you dan?
Where did you come up with presumption that I don’t want to learn/ that I didn’t learn already? As said, I even started with some of the practices long before reading CC’s work. Lucid dreaming was one of the things that captivated me. Funny enough, stephen laberge advised the same hand technique as don. On the other hand, I also maintained a good tonal without knowing what tonal is. It could even be said that I managed to “read/see” some abstract cores and act accordingly, also before getting acquainted with the material. Apart from darkroom, there really aren’t many techniques that one can do on a regular basis. I don’t about you guys, but it gets pretty hard when you need to balance your life between work/kids/freedom.
At this point, it is just excuses. I know one regular poster who does balance between work/kids/freedom. I also know that Dan works 12 hours per day. I also ended up on the Dean’s list in accounting, purely due to sorcery practice, where before sorcery I had a problem with getting drunk and going out and getting punched in the head.
“Inventory Experts believe that explanations are the essence of learning.”
"All intent works, but the wrong intent will be such a fractured (phantom room), you won’t even be able to perceive it.
And mixing outside stuff is like mixing different jigsaw puzzles into a giant pile on the floor; really stupid, if you have any actual interest in putting together the puzzle.
Can’t be undone, you just have to bulldoze the entire pile away and start over. Unfortunately, we’re all bad players, and won’t let go of the pieces we value. It’s like finding a piece of the Buddha’s ear on a jig saw puzzle. You’re so excited, you run around showing your friends, you know what this pieces is! It’s the Buddha’s ear.
And you keep that in your pocket refusing to throw it out. When it’s time to assemble a real jigsaw puzzle, like the Olmec scene, you keep trying to stuff the Buddhas ear into it.
That’s all of us…
In fact, you can’t clearly see phantom rooms or create them at will, because of all the pieces you have stuffed into your pockets, and refuse to let go. Silence lets you sneak out from the pieces you stuffed everywhere in your pockets (you have many), but only for a while."
I would suggest to just let go of your supposed pieces. It is not learning.
Please take a break for the time being.
As said, I even started with some of the practices long before reading CC’s work. Lucid dreaming was one of the things that captivated me. Funny enough, stephen laberge advised the same hand technique as don
"Stephen LaBerge (born 1947) is an American psychophysiologist specializing in the scientific study of lucid dreaming. In 1967 he received his bachelor’s degree in mathematics. He began researching lucid dreaming for his Ph.D. in psychophysiology at Stanford University, which he received in 1980.[1] He developed techniques to enable himself and other researchers to enter a lucid dream state at will, most notably the MILD technique (mnemonic induction of lucid dreams), which was used in many forms of dream experimentation.[2] In 1987, he founded The Lucidity Institute, an organization that promotes research into lucid dreaming, as well as running courses for the general public on how to achieve a lucid dream.[3]
In the early 1980s, news of LaBerge’s research using the technique of signaling to a collaborator monitoring his EEG with agreed-upon eye movements during REM helped to popularize lucid dreaming in the American media.
Wired magazine referred to him as the “Thomas Edison of lucid dreaming.” source
“Carlos César Salvador Arana (December 25, 1925 – April 27, 1998), better known as Carlos Castaneda, was an American anthropologist and writer. Starting in 1968, Castaneda published a series of books that describe a training in shamanism that he (had already) received under the tutelage of a Yaqui “Man of Knowledge” named don Juan Matus.”
Of course LaBerge literally just took it from Castaneda. It isn’t very funny when it’s just a sneak doing sneaky things and not crediting what he owes it to.