Even Better J Curve Diagram

Yes, it really is this bright and real at times. Naturally I drew the best I saw.

Here’s all the things I can think of, which happen at various positions of the assemblage point.

You could take any of them, and move them 1/4 of a page away. It’s pretty hard to say what happens where, because you can skip around.

But in general, the progression is true.

Now, I have to say. The best stuff is just below the “Red Station”.

I’m sorry. I feel bad for saying that. But there’s nothing more fun than being taught by an inorganic being.

Once you get over the surprise, they teach so fast you’ll be running for your cellphone, so you can activate the “google notes” ap.

I’ve even had Fancy looking over my shoulder at the cell phone, as if she didn’t agree with some point I typed on there.

But they don’t seem to be able to read.

I suspect they skipped elementary school.

The most inaccurate part of the chart is past the second attention fog.

It’s very hard to say what happens along the bottom.

And when you get close to the end, one type of experience can mix with another.

So I put creating your own virtual room, and the ability to hold it in place for hours while you practice, just below stopping the world.

Is that true?

Beats me. But to translocate, even in the simple form of a room makeover, is fairly easy.

We have several who have translocated, including one who did it with the welding goggles, and no actual dark room.

But to hold it in place, that’s another thing.

You have to REALLY not care.

Which is what stops the world.

You completely reject what intent has given you, and it makes a new offer.

You either bounce off into another world, perhaps one of your cyclic beings, or the world stops.

It’s like rejecting some chicken nuggets at dinner as a child, and your mom is so pleased with the grades you brought home on your report card, that she makes you some mac and cheese instead.

Now about this illustration. Cholita has me on a tight string.

But I’ll just say, one type of bad player doesn’t like to see pictures like this.

They pretend it’s “unseemly”, or something like that.

What it is, is disruptive.

To the people who are interested in attention from other people, and don’t like to see actual magic.

But I must admit. Cholita would not like this picture too.

But mostly because she’s rooting for me to fail.

She roots for me to fail in anything. Even at traffic lights.


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This is amazing and extremely detailed Dan.

Something I wanted to ask, do you know what each of the colors are used for? I haven’t found use for the red or green colors, but there’s this white fog that floats above head that usually overpowers the purple. When I pull it down that’s when I’ll see shadows of movement, not sure if this is the second attention fog or not.

My preferences on colors (just mine, Zuleica had different ones).

Purple for forming “bodies” for IOBs to make use of. Bu tyou have to stuff them into the body, either with hand, or by gaze.

Pink for them to manifest on voluntarily, while helping you out. My understanding is, they’re still just dream scouts, and the pink puffs make a useful dream for them to “scout”.

Yellow for manufacturing objects. You can swirl it with jet black to make a power object, or drain it onto the floor, to materialize 5 inches of water at your feet.

Jet Black for the strongest magic.

In fact, you can “see dark energy on a horizon” just as well as you can see the whitish light.

But it’s alive. I can’t explain that.

The whitish light you can see on surfaces, is peaceful. You have to gaze at it, to get it to become anything you can recognize.

The black blobs which can float up from the floor and cover flat surfaces, is “angry”.

It’s itching for a fight.

Reddish light is just something i"m happy to see, because it’s so rare. Doesn’t seem to do anything different than the overall haze.

Tiel or greenish blue, is likely just a different look at the purple. Or it’s the purple, gone intense.

not sure if this is the second attention fog or not.

Yes, of course!

The apprentices were introduced to the “wall of fog” by someone else, not under their own power.

So for them, it was a threatening barrier.

For us, it’s our friend, a reward for hard work.

It doesn’t cover up things. It reveals them.

Pink for them to manifest on voluntarily, while helping you out. My understanding is, they’re still just dream scouts, and the pink puffs make a useful dream for them to “scout”.

Haven’t seen pink as yet, I probably shouldn’t limit my imagination as to what colors can appear

Reddish light is just something i"m happy to see, because it’s so rare. Doesn’t seem to do anything different than the overall haze.

For the red I usually just blow a long breath out with NY mouth and the area will turn red as soon as I try scooping it though it changes to purple. Last night was slightly different wherever I stared at would turn red but eventually went back to purple

It doesn’t cover up things. It reveals them.

YES! that’s exactly how the white fog feels, it’s extremely dreamlike. I’m probably gonna add an extra hour 3 hours starting to feel too short.

They do respond to blowing into them, especially in daylight.

If you keep that up, you’ll get real far.

It’s not so much time if you think about it. I used to put that sort of time into cutting gems when I was younger.

Or my latest “invention”.

Or even martial arts.

But somehow people expect you ought to be able to learn sorcery in a half hour a day.

Maybe it’s the meditation people causing that assumption.

You have to keep in mind, those guys want you hanging around for 20 years. It’s good for business.

If they had people doing 3 hours a day, they’d have a bunch of “freak outs”.

And it would become obvious, they don’t know any more than the next guy.

The whole “system” of religion, meditation, and magic, seems designed to hold you down.

And to punish real magic.

Hmm so its less about the time and more about getting the feeling of second attention so we can switch it on anytime. But in the beginning the long sessions build up to that.

Thank you Dan for the full description.
I just wonna ask a question, if I usually have a white and black dream surrounded me around, 3 nights back I saw a small figure on the side ( very colorful) like my palm. After that for 3 days the dreams always in a good colors. Would be because of IOB ? Always eyes opened.

Yep. But your ability to avoid fantasizing is also an important part of getting there.

Lately I only stop when I “run out of energy”, which feels like a mild lack of caffeine headache.

But I’ve discovered if you stop just then, you can keep practicing while lying down. You simply tend to drift off into dreaming at some point, with people you know waiting for you there.

Mind like a clear blue sky. Thanks a lot Dan.

Most “intercepted” dreams are fairly unsaturated for me (meaning, very low color content).

I haven’t seen an IOB alter that by their presence.

Fancy alters it when teaching, because she tends to put on “costumes” designed to keep me fascinated.

My guess: The IOBs tie into whatever they can find. Which will vary from person to person.

Then they try to obsess you as much as possible, with pointless details.

It’s not much different than appearing as a frightful demon at first, but then changing to something less scary once they find out you aren’t afraid of them.

But there’s one detail interesting there. Others have seen it.

I won’t point it out. I don’t want to influence people.

You’ll see it, if you keep reading people’s posts in here.

Always eyes opened.

Keep that up.

If there were a “point system” for magical practices out there (their ability to influence general opinions), designed to rate the ability to attract and impress new people to put in the hard work, it would go like this:

Eyes closed laying down: -1 point for trying to count going to bed as magic.

Sitting in chair, eyes closed: 0 points. Unless Jesus comes to visit you, in which case it’s 5 points with the Mormons, and -20 points with everyone else.

Walking around eyes closed: 1 point.

Sitting stationary eyes open but in darkness: 3 points.

Walking around eyes open in darkness: 10 points. Unless again, you run into Jesus. Then it’s probably a break even situation.

Walking around in daylight: 20 points.

Is the only way to know that the assemblage point has shifted down the J curve by the type of experiences one has, or is there some other indication that clearly tell you which position of the J curve the assemblage point is at? If its the former, how do we know it is curved at all or we moved down?

I clearly had experiences described along many points of the J curve, but there is no indication that I was following any J curve what so ever, and as you said I also sometime skip many steps. I tried looking around at whether this is a rough model, or the shape of J curve is meaningful. This info on the wiki its a bit lacking, perhaps it would be nice to have a section on the J curve and the luminous egg, etc.

Great diagram! Thanks for putting on so much effort with your work

Got it, thanks.

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Carlos told us the path the assemblage point moves, in private classes.

He even used his finger, and traced it on the body of a woman who looked similar to the one in the picture. At each point along the curve he commented on what that was like.

The colored lines were where he said the most about what happens. I made up the colors so it would be easier to refer to.

Unfortunately, I was focused on the girl’s butt.

He knew that, and even taunted me about it.

No one else noticed the J curve lecture, so the topic became lost. Even to cleargreen.

We’re lucky to have even that much information.

In other systems you get a lot more information, but that’s because people make it up from guru to guru, until they can pretend they know everything, when in fact they don’t know any of it.

As for the luminious egg, that picture there is the best we have. Carlos drew it himself.

However, if you make it to “silent knowledge”, you can simply “know” the answers to each question you had.

It works! Verified by me and by a few in here too.

Except…

But you’ll find out the “except” part.

I liken heighten awareness to a cocaine high where you believe you know everything.

The disturbing part is like this: I fell into HA for 2 weeks on a trip abroad. I was sitting on a bench wondering if it was really possible to see through walls, and suddenly I saw a glowing blob behind a wall in front of me, walking along.

I got excited thinking the person was just about to emerge from the wall, into my view.

And they did!

So sometimes, it’s true. Other times is dubious information. Possibly true, but so inapplicable it might as well not be true.

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