i believe that . ancient people were pure.
i believe that . ancient people were pure.
were they? for some reason this comment left a bad taste in my mouth. ancient people were just trying to survive the best they can.
to intend something specific is far more difficult than that. Purity is crystal clarity able to create anything…
if i remember correctly , in one of the books Don Juan said there was a time when humans were dominately on their Nagual side.
Dan also has talked about the era before agriculture and money , and how humans could easily meet and see and learn from IOBs .
you can try that! just go live in nature for some time, and see how it clears your . imagine always being in nature and knowing how to survive. perfect environment to naturally become sorcerer.
Why have you slow down so much?
that is the first phase , you will start strong for a couple of days , but your mind tries to go back and you will drop the practice .
that is why most of us don’t practice . we stop there . we may repeat this first phase , but we never decide to practice for at least 30 days .
we should not stop at that phase , if you go on , slowly you will have more willing towards really practicing . do it and see .
right now willing to practice is a lot stronger in my mind . eventually , it will happen .
Interesting so far only my body is messing me up my alignment is wacky and the nerves in my legs are pinched
I think the idea of documenting the progress is great. I will also take part, but i don’t want to stick to just listing the activities, i also want to describe my experiences with them. Maybe it’s possible to stalk myself and get to know my habits even better or even see my progress. In any case, the documentation keeps me connected with the intention of learning sorcery. Furthermore, this post should also serve as a motivation for others.
Challenge started at 2023-02-21
Day 1:
This morning i already practiced tensegrity for 30 minutes (the westwood series; 2 times the first group and 2 times the second group). My eyes were covered with a blackout mask as i don’t have a dark room. It was very difficult for me to stop the inner dialogue. He kept showing up. But i will try to remain without expectations and see what happens. I will also keep reminding myself (all day long) to observe the inner dialogue and to calm it down.
Nevertheless, I could perceive purple puffs. I don’t know if it’s the same puffs you’re talking about, cause these seemed to be very vague.
I also looked at the sun with my cell phone for 20 minutes (sunlight glitter). It is as if i can perceive countless circles, which remain in their position with complete peace. It’s like looking into another world. There’s even something calming about it. In any case, I will try to do this exercise every day cause i am loving it.
I feel like my attitude towards all of this is changing. It’s like it’s going to be natural. I’m curious how it looks in 30 days.
-– Maybe more this evening.
A little update. I have done another 30 minutes of tensegrety in the afternoon. The same series as this mornung. And another 15 minutes of sun glitter. I really like it.
Furthermore i practised the first 5 movements of the third group (dreaming) i think tomorrow i will do the rest. And now to have some fun i will go for DRG and try to get some purple puffs and play with them. More tomorrow.
Day 2:
- Completed the third group (dreaming).
- 2 x 30 min of tensegrety with DRG
- 20 min of sunlight glitter
- What i find out is that the inner voice is really annoying. When i try to cut of the inner voice it comes back twice as strong. But i won’t give up yet.
- More tomorrow.
Day 3:
Today was the first time i was doing darkroom for 60 min straight. I have done tensegrety the groups mentioned above each 3 times and after that i was walking around. Before i started tensegrety i have done 5 min of sunlight glitter.
At the beginning of darkroom and tensegrety my inner voice was calm. During tensegrety the inner voice started a few times but each time i tried to put my attention back to the moves. I think i haven’t seen any purple puffs at all.
During the day i tried to keep up the inner silence. But like the days before it is still like pain in the ass.
Day 4:
- 1x 10 min tensegrety and 1x 20 min tensegrety in darkroom. The tensegrety movements happen by themselves without thinking.
- gazing a stone 10 min and drg 40 min (during drg i dozed few times off)
- tried again and again to stop my inner voice, but this still seems impossible
Day 5:
- 25 min tensegrety in darkroom, today i conecentrated more on the moves instead of seeing anything. The moves were more fluent and my inner voice were quiter, but still a long way.
Day 6:
- Learned the 4th series (inner silence)
- 30 min tensegrety in darkroom
- 20 min drg
Day 7:
- Have done nothing. Too tired from work.
Day 8:
- I have done 40 min of tensegrety in darkroom. I had a feeling of seeing my hands through my mask.
Day 9:
- The same like on Day 8. I have done 40 min of tensegrety in darkroom. I had a feeling of seeing my hands through my mask. I feel like I’ve calmed down since i started. The inner voice is still there but quiter.
Day 10:
- I have done 40 min of tensegrety in darkroom. I had the same feeling like on day 9. But the feeling wasn’t stronger and i haven’t seen more.
Day 11:
- I have done 5 min of sunlight glitter.
- Today was the first time i have done the westwood series 3 times in a row. My inner voice wasn’t strong. I had a good concentration on the movements. It was like my body has done the movements all by his own. I did not have to think much about the sequences of the movements.
- I haven’t really noticed the purple puffs yet. Maybe i am not in my second attention yet?
- I’m excited to see what the next days will bring.
Day 12:
- 30 min of drg
- 30 min tensegrety in darkroom. It felt awesome. I had the feeling that i was surrounded by many purple puffs. I was really quiet. It felt awesome. But after 30 min my inner voice started again and i gave it up for this evening.
Day 13:
- After 12 days of only practising the westwood serie i started to reactivate the first series. The series of preparing intent. I have learned this 1 year ago when i have done a lot of tensegrety but without darkroom. The exercises quickly came back to my mind. Now I will try these step by step in the darkroom.
- 30 min tensegrety and 10 min of drg
- It is very hard to keep up the focus on inner silence during drg. While doing tensegrety i am very quiet. But after tensegrety during drg the inner voice is starting again.

Can you please explain what you mean by a container?
And can you please describe the wiggling method? Didn’t find a description in the reddit.
Thank you.
Hi Dan,
I started gazing a few days ago and I really like this path, found out some dry leaves in nature then brought it back with me but I would like to know if I’m on the right track though..
I hold it in my hand then gaze at it but after some time, the leaf just disappear, it literaly merges with my hand until I don’t see it anymore, am I doing it right..?
What are we trying to accomplish with gazing except silence ?
Is it problematic to use the same leaf everyday (I guess it will become a power object) ?
Also I feel like I’m discovering my eyes, last time I went for a long walk while forcing silence, I started to walk while blurring my vision, I learnt to switch from clear to blur as I wish without crossing my eyes and could get it to a point where everything around me made no sens at all, I’m pretty sure I looked like a degenerate doing it, with a serious face as if I was about to kill someone but anyway, forcing silence was much more easy that way. Is it usefull to do that or am I just wasting my time ?
A container is any conceptual boundary that lets you perceive “this”, versus “that”.
A “family” is a container into which intent stores. Shitty intent filled with grief and self-pity, but it’s still a container.
But so is the tensegrity. Each form is a “thing” where if something happens doing that thing, than it’s now in the “set of all weird stuff that can happen when doing tensegrity form X”.
I knew that “set theory” had to be good for something!
As for wiggling the fingers, I believe this picture shows what you’re asking about.
But there’s reference to it in Eagle’s Gift, if you search for “Zuleica”, and keep reading from there.
It’s 18-24 inches out from the stomach, and 4 inches to the right.
But it becomes visible later on, so just wiggle around there until it does. Takes months perhaps but in the meantime you’ll see lots of fun stuff.
And don’t worry. It gets VERY creepy if you work hard. As in, a blue ball of energy forms vividly because you wiggled there, and off walks your double. It just materializes, and decides to leave. While you watch!
I’ll have to include that in a cartoon.
I’ll be excited if we get a hard working gazer!
It’s the #1 fastest path in sorcery.
But no one keeps it up!
Leaf disapears in hand is like “green zone” level leaf gazing.
You could in fact make a list for us, of “weird stuff” you see while gazing, and we can post it if it has enough variety.
Sparkles are common too.
The edges of things are sharp enough to trigger the second attention to decide there must be “something else” there too. So you see a weird sparkle. Those are intense, like a red, blue, and yellow dot, somehow connected together, and exploding on the edge of a leaf.
You can also “doze off” or “blank out”, and see an entire tiny dreaming object.
That object is often an inorganic being trying to gain entry to your “dream”.
Not knowing you don’t have the skills to sustain it. But IOBs will take any interactions they can get.
> Is it problematic to use the same leaf everyday (I guess it will become a power object) ?
Cholita does that. I wouldn’t go near her leaves, without big precautions.
She takes a fancy to them, and hangs them up in her garden.
> Is it useful to do that or am I just wasting my time ?
If you can induce mini-blackouts or super fast dreams you barely notice until you force yourself, it’s working.
But Taisha liked to simply say, you are “accumulating seconds”.
When you reach the right count of seconds of silence saved up, you turn into a witch.
Or something like that.
I have a different point of view. You aren’t saving anything up.
You’re learning to be silent longer each time.
But if you stop practicing, the time you can be silent gets shorter again.
And you have to reach 2 minutes for “weird shit” to happen.
Thank you. This answer helped me.
Yes I will definitely try to map it see if I can find some kind of Jcurve with this.
I remember finding something weird weeks ago while practicing outside, after more than an hour gazing at a rock accross the river, I decided to come back home and on my way back, I was “seeing” faces in every trees. It was the very first time I noticed it, I will see next time if it happens again.
You can teleport with gazing also. You saturate yourself with the other location, in perfect silence, and your double comes out to go take a look.
I suppose it’s not much different than the technique Taisha uses in her last book, to do kungfu on the floor while laying up in the tree house.
I had plans to show a group of Taiwanese how to do that on the side of Mt. Ali.
They don’t reject sorcery in Taiwan.
But I came to realize, you can’t teach specific individuals without an entire lineage behind you.
Same thing Carlos discovered, unfortunately.
What do you mean by saturating yourself with the new location, do you feel / imagine yourself being there with as much details as possible, eyes awake ?
And do you think there’s absolutely no lineage left in the world, no more benefactor alive to teach indivudals..? I thought about traveling to Mexico some day in the future, see if I have enough personal power to meet a benefactor there but to be honest I’m a bit affraid ahah
Gaze at it in silence until it begins to “change”. And then see if you can get it to “zoom in”.
But you don’t have to learn this technique. It happens during darkroom automatically when you can move to the deep red.
No lineages?
No, there’s probably near to 9.
Different than ours though. La Gorda said, “We don’t like those guys.”
None that you can find out about however.
Carlos already commented on that, making sure everyone knew all you hear about are fakes.
If you hear of a new lineage, it’s just some very bad man with a cult of mentally ill people. And 0 sorcery.
There’s no reason a real lineage would expose themselves to the public in any way!
They don’t need money. The lineages are all likely very wealthy. That’s what happens when you exist unbroken for 800 years, giving all the belongings to the next generation.
Even your old underwear becomes very valuable, after 800 years.
Carlos himself was “importing art” when he picked up Cholita, who happens to specialize in that.
She ended up with customers in Hollywood, given to her by Carlos.
So you can draw your own conclusions.
I had a computer back there that might have had pictures of some of it.
But Cholita wouldn’t let me extract the hard drive for her.
The computer itself can’t be fixed anymore. Apple refuses.
> meet a benefactor there
All benefactors you might find are just crazy men.
Likely eyeing your wallet and your butthole.
Typical trick is to drug you up claiming it’s to teach you sorcery, and then rape you.
It’s common enough that if I post that remark, I get private messages from people confirming it.
If you hear “benefactor”, you have a crazy guy.
And the “benefactors” were for the Men of Knowledge.
We DO NOT want to be those lame guys.
They’re only 1 step up from meditation zombies on the scale of knowledge.
Read more. You’ve got “first 4 book” fever.
It’s easy to get over that by remaining in here and reading stuff.
Can’t tell from your Day 1 part but are you collecting glitter before or after your darkroom practice? Make sure you get the glitter before your practice cuz if you gather glitter after, you’ll just waste it on turbocharging your normal sleep dreams. It appears that glitter gathering resets everyday. Also, do tensegrity in the darkroom; you’ll see the results! Effects will be dim but you’ll see it!
Thank you for the advice.
At the moment i try to collect the glitter throughout the day and i am doing tensegrety primarily in the darkroom except when i am practising new forms.
is it okay to just have stones for the left hand? would it matter if i had stones in one hand and random objects in the other like maybe sticks or something?
According to Carlos and Dan, yes it is acceptable to only have ones for the left hand if that really is all that you can source. But patience is a virtue and you’d be surprised what you can find if you put your energy to it, and give it time. And it will feel so much better to have a balanced set of…whatever.
So best practice would be to start using the ones for the left hand, while you’re searching or sourcing for more for the right.
